tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5427069094580312550.post6916210929553355195..comments2023-12-23T21:48:09.231-08:00Comments on Code To Joy: Hello World: A New RequirementMichael Easterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14799771593145201161noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5427069094580312550.post-78538778550829894982008-01-21T08:53:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:53:00.000-08:00"Hello World" in brazilian portuguese: "Alô mundo"..."Hello World" in brazilian portuguese: "Alô mundo" ;)Ivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668030719475447838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5427069094580312550.post-90272368268286705922007-08-02T04:35:00.000-07:002007-08-02T04:35:00.000-07:00re: the point.Like I said in the post, it is true ...re: the point.<BR/><BR/>Like I said in the post, it is true that the new Hello World is no longer minimalist.<BR/><BR/>If one is just trying to get something to compile in a brand new environment, then good ol' Hello World makes sense.<BR/><BR/>But in a book or a presentation, I think that i18n is important enough that it should be part of the demo. The new HW shows not only syntax and the programming environment but also the ease/difficulty of i18n for that language.<BR/><BR/>e.g. I'm not an expert in Ruby, but Wikipedia states that V 1.x doesn't have native support for Unicode. That "minor" point is illuminated by this.<BR/><BR/>Most of all though, I just find it "hello world" to be culturally arrogant. IMHO, the addition of i18n is more interesting than changing the text to something like "did this work?".Michael Easterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14799771593145201161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5427069094580312550.post-17996325133452933252007-08-02T03:34:00.000-07:002007-08-02T03:34:00.000-07:00What about a grid-driven Hello World?What about a grid-driven Hello World?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5427069094580312550.post-90997159083012118432007-08-01T20:47:00.000-07:002007-08-01T20:47:00.000-07:00I agree with MEaster that "Hello World" should be ...I agree with MEaster that "Hello World" should be internationalized <I>because it should be</I> the "quintessential internationalization example"<BR/><BR/>I propose that the "quintessential examples of some technology" should be renamed to "Hello English-speaking People" or "Hola Gente de Habla Hispana" etc.<BR/><BR/>This is, of course, in jest, but I like the idea of keeping i18n in the front of our minds and to introduce it early in all disciplines (not just Computer Science). I would have been better served to have been exposed to this earlier myself.<BR/><BR/>P.S. “Hello World” displayed to a screen, for instance, does not give consideration to the blind, who are, in fact, part of the world, too.Mike Vennemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05327716952486917452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5427069094580312550.post-54450489568612844832007-08-01T16:15:00.000-07:002007-08-01T16:15:00.000-07:00I can't say I agree. The fact that 'Hello World' p...I can't say I agree. The fact that 'Hello World' programs happen to print "Hello World" is not the point. They are designed to be quintessential examples of some technology. Introducing i18n adds a whole bunch of complexity that distracts from the point.<BR/><BR/>Unless of course your goal is to show the quintessential internationalization example, in which case this makes sense.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15749195880217321441noreply@blogger.com